
We’re thrilled to welcome back saxophonist and composer Steve Lehman for a special guest post detailing some of the recent contemporary classical music that’s influenced and inspired his work. It’s a sonic world that’s new to us and we hope you’ll be as intrigued by this selective overview as we are.
Most mentions of so-called contemporary classical music in the (jazz) blog-o-sphere tend to focus on people like Philip Glass, Steve Reich, and Milton Babbitt, and their work from the 1950s and 1960s. Sort of like using Dave Brubeck and Ornette Coleman as a yardstick to measure the current state of jazz. A lot of fascinating and provocative music has happened since then – much of it in recent decades.
It’s not easy to get information about this music and find your bearings outside of a quasi-institutional context, so we’re especially grateful to Steve for serving as such a trustworthy tour-guide. Many of these compositions can be hard to sink your teeth into, but the tracks he’s chosen are consistently accessible and engaging. Take it away, Steve…
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When Travail, Transformation & Flow, my most recent recording, was released in June 2009, I started to receive a pretty steady stream of inquiries about spectral music and my use of spectral harmony. And they came from all over: colleagues, mentors, critics, engaged listeners, and students, among others. I first came into contact with spectral music in 2001, while getting my M.A. in Music Composition at Wesleyan University. And a good deal of my engagement with the current landscape of contemporary Western art music, and its associated milieus, has been facilitated by major academic institutions like Wesleyan, Columbia University, and The Paris Conservatory (CNSM).
For that reason, I thought it might be nice to share a bit of information about some of the musical communities that I’ve been exposed to over the past 10 years. And in particular, to highlight those European composers, who emerged after 1970, whose work has helped me to think about both composition and improvisation in new ways.

PARTIELS
Gerard Grisey
Les Espaces Acoustiques
Kairos : 2005
GONDWANA (edit)
Tristan Murail
Gondwana; Desintegrations; Time and Again
Montaigne : 2004
Composers Gerard Grisey and Tristan Murail are more or less universally viewed as the so-called “founding fathers” of spectral music. There are, of course, historical precedents for their music (Debussy, Scriabin, Varese, Messiaen, and Ligeti, among others) as well as parallel streams (The Romanian Spectral School), but the emergence of their work in the 1970s, and its subsequent evolution, seems to represent a real point of definition in the last 40 years of contemporary Western art music. When I first encountered Murail and Grisey’s music, I was blown away by the unique, otherworldly nature of their harmonic language, and immediately started looking for ways to integrate spectral harmony into my work as an improviser. Murail and Grisey have composed a lot of seminal works in the past 40 years, but Partiels (part of Grisey’s Les Espaces Acoustiques cycle), in particular, provides a really clear and compelling example of the timbre/harmony hybrid that permeates spectral music.
Further Listening:
Les Espaces Acoustiques – Gerard Grisey
Vortex Temporum – Gerard Grisey
Gondwana – Tristan Murail
La Mandragore – Tristan Murail
Reading:
–“Guide to the Basic Concepts and Techniques of Spectral Music” (Joshua Cody). In Contemporary Music Review Vol. 19, Part 2 (2000)
–“Tempus Ex Machina: A Composer’s Reflections on Musical Time” (Gerard Grisey). In Contemporary Music Review Vol. 2 (1987)
–Compositeurs d’Aujourd’hui: Tristan Murail (Edited by Peter Szendy)
L’Harmattan Press (2002)
STRING TRIO
Michael Finnissy
Catana; String Trio; Contretanze
Etcetera : 1987
Not unlike Anthony Braxton, Michael Finnissy’s output is so vast, that it’s hard to know exactly how to begin talking about it. In addition to his work as a composer, Finnissy is a virtuoso pianist (he’s produced definitive recordings of his own piano music and music by his contemporaries as well), and for that reason, his music always seems to stay rooted in the physicality of live performance, no matter how complex it gets. And it does get complex! Finnissy’s name comes up a lot in discussions of the “New Complexity” movement (mostly for his use of unusual rhythmic ratios and tuplets), which includes other European composers like Brian Ferneyhough, Richard Barrett, and James Dillon, among others. Finnissy has also written relatively “simple” music and also dedicated pieces to master improvisers like Cecil Taylor. String Trio is one of my favorite Finnissy pieces and one that I find very accessible for a lot of different reasons: the use of quarter-tones to create a kind of imaginary folk music, the way that relatively simple playing techniques are used to create a one-of-a-kind sound world, and the fact that the form and structure of the piece work really well and keep the piece interesting from start to finish (the piece lasts 30 minutes).
Further Listening:
String Trio
Red Earth
English Country Tunes
Contretanze
Reading:
–Uncommon Ground: The Music of Michael Finnissy (Edited by Brougham, Fox & Pace) Ashgate Press (1997)

GRAN TORSO
Helmut Lachenmann
Grido; Reigen Seliger Geister; Gran Torso
Kairos : 2008
Helmut Lachenmann coined the term “musique concrete instrumentale” to describe his music, and it gives a pretty good idea of the innovative sound world that he has developed over the past 40 years. Building on the work of Italian composers like Giancinto Scelsci and Luigi Nono (Lachenmann took formal lessons with Nono), Lachenmann makes extensive use of non-idiomatic instrumental playing techniques (often referred to as “extended techniques”), and has developed a highly influential compositional syntax around the resulting sounds. The string quartet, Gran Torso, gives a great example of Lachemann’s writing for strings, and shows how these “concrete” instrumental sounds can be orchestrated and arranged to create an all-encompassing musical universe. Not unlike the work of people like Mark Dresser and Evan Parker, Lachenmann’s music provides a kind of never-ending wealth of information about the transformation of new instrumental practices into new musical languages and new musical meanings.
Further Listening:
Gran Torso
Air
Tableau
Guero
Reading:
–“Resistant Strains of Postmodernism: The Music of Helmut Lachenmann and Brian Ferneyhough” (Ross Feller) In Postmodern Music / Postmodern Thought (Edited by Lochhead & Auner) Routledge Press (2002)

STILL
Beat Furrer
Nuun; Presto Con Fuoco; Still; Poemas
Kairos : 2000
Beat Furrer is a composer that I got turned onto when I started the doctoral program in Composition at Columbia in 2006. And what impresses me most about his music is the way that he orchestrates traditional and non-traditional playing techniques to create really unusual and compelling sound worlds. The other thing that jumps out about Furrer’s work is his use of repetition and compositional loops. To a certain degree, this is inherited from American Minimalist composers like Steve Reich and Philip Glass, but that influence manifests itself in a pretty unique way in Furrer’s music. And Furrer is actually part of a loosely connected circle of influential German-speaking composers (Bernhard Lang, Peter Ablinger, Mathias Spahlinger, Beat Furrer) whose work deals with repetition and/or memory in some important way. Based on what I’ve heard, thus far, Furrer is the most gifted orchestrator of the group, and probably not by coincidence, the most widely known. Furrer also founded one of Europe’s preeminent New Music ensembles (Klangforum Wien) in 1985, and, as a result, has had the good fortune to receive remarkably polished and well-rehearsed performances of his very demanding music…and this recording of Still is no exception…!
Further Listening:
Still
Fama
Watching:
A short interview with Beat Furrer about his music.
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If you’re interested in hearing how Lehman synthesized all of this in an improv context, we’ve re-upped a track at our then-preview post for his album Travail, Transformation, and Flow.
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28 Responses to Some Current Trends in Contemporary Classical Music: An Improviser’s Guide
parallelliott
December 14th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Thanks for this very informative post. Being outside of the academy and without access to academic journals it’s difficult to find out what’s going on with contemporary classical.
Bg Porter
December 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Awesome — I’d also love to see Steve lay down the path theory/harmony-wise between what Grisey et al are doing, and what he’s doing on the new release. I’m assuming that there’s some kind of impedance matching required to use those harmonic concepts in an improvised format…
DJA
December 15th, 2009 at 12:49 am
This is a valuable post and Steve’s examples are all extremely well-chosen. I’d be lying if I said that either spectral music or the “new complexity” were close to my heart, but the selections here all have something to offer, and are really excellent introductions to the work of these composers.
That said, I feel I should maybe comment on what paralleliott said:
Being outside of the academy and without access to academic journals it’s difficult to find out what’s going on with contemporary classical.
There is a shit-ton of “contemporary classical” music that happens outside the academy. Lots of it is really good and really vital, and the scene is tremendously diverse. I’d really hate for anyone to walk away with the impression that recently composed music never escapes the ivory tower.
Interested listeners could do worse than to check in with Kyle Gann’s blog from time to time. Or, not to get too incestuous, but there’s quite a lot of recent music by young (primarily NYC-based, primarily nonacademic) composers available for streaming from the New Amsterdam site. Plus, you know, Anti-Social Music, ICE, the MATA festival, etc.
Steve L.
December 15th, 2009 at 1:34 am
Parallelliot: So glad the post was valuable and of interest to you.
BG Porter: I’m sure I’ll get to go into more detail about my work in this area at some point — probably in a slightly different context/format.
DJA: Thanks for your comments and for drawing attention to the amazing work being done by New York/Chicago-based ensembles like ICE. Your comments strike me as being connected, for the most part, to the work being done by North American composers living in and around New York City — and in particular those whose work often deals with genre-hybridity in some fairly explicit way. As you can tell from my opening comments and from the 5 composers I chose to highlight, my post is pretty firmly centered around contemporary European art music. And there are definitely a lot of great online resources out there (including Kyle Gann’s blog). But speaking as someone who has functioned both in and outside of the academy for the past 4 years, it still seems pretty safe to say that there is, unfortunately, and abundance of information that rarely escapes the “ivory tower.” For another take on this, I’d recommend checking out George Lewis’s comments about his “Modernism Boot Camp” initiative, which he speaks about at some length as part of a long interview with Ted Panken — just recently posted at http://www.jazz.com
Tom G
December 15th, 2009 at 10:30 am
It’s a blessing that a lot of that abstract “headache”-music does NOT leave the ivory tower because that’s where it belongs … Most of it is just a bad recycling of the old avant-garde, but not all of it. What’s pretty amazing is the amount of money that flows in the direction of 2nd- or 3rd-class new music composers – I recently talked to a Swiss jazz musicians who participated in a new music project and compared to the gigs with his own groups he earned a shitload of money even if almost nobody came to the concerts (maybe the listeners were taken hostage in an ivory tower???) … cheers!
DJA
December 15th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Hey Steve,
Thanks for commenting. Your focus was clear, and it’s great to have some discussion of this music from someone like yourself who has been in the academic trenches but regularly plays/works outside of them as well. It was just parallelliott’s comment that seemed to give the impression that new classical music and academia are necessarily synonymous, which you know and I know ain’t so.
And, like Bg Porter, I’d love to see a followup somewhere about how, specifically, the stuff you talk about above manifests itself in your own work.
Cheers, and best wishes,
- DJA
Mark C
December 15th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
This is a wonderful piece and a great place to find it. From the bits I already know of, this is extremely well considered (though I’d have to suggest 4 chants pour franchir le seuil by Grisey). I’m way off being an academic or even a musician but hey, if you can’t track stuff down on the internet, are you really trying? New Coco’s a good place to start.
@Tom: “that abstract head-ache music” – isn’t that one of those tired put-downs that get said about so much of ‘our’ stuff usually? In re CT and the like, for instance? I repeat my question: are you really trying?!!
Steve L.
December 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
So glad to see the discourse expanding a bit. Thanks to everyone for their comments.
One important point that has emerged, as a result of these comments, is that my post is pretty squarely focused on the sub-category of European Modernism in contemporary classical music and some of its current manifestations in 2009/2010. Those communities and histories do seem to be staying inextricably linked to major educational and cultural institutions for the time being. A phenomenon that stands in fairly stark contrast to the status of composers (both young and old) working in and around American Postmodern streams of contemporary classical music. American composers like John Cage, Alvin Lucier, Steve Reich, and Pauline Oliveros have always articulated a strong affinity for DIY methodologies — a working/professional model that seems to have been borrowed and re-appropriated from people like Louis Gottschalk, Scott Joplin, Duke Ellington, and Charlie Parker, among others.
Steve L.
December 15th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Connecting to various comments referencing The Academy, The Ivory Tour, and Institutional Support, I wanted to share a (slightly edited) reflection on these topics that I originally posted as part of a comment thread on Nate Chinen’s Blog — his original post was entitled “Grant Me This.” My original post also happens to allude to another saxophonist’s affinity for French proto-spectral music, as composed by Edgar Varese…!
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Originally Posted on 7/26/2009
Following this discussion I can’t help but think that there may be an even larger point lurking at the crux of the issues raised by Nate’s original post–specifically that of jazz’s relationship to massive infrastructure and financial resource more generally.
Part of what’s so amazing about jazz is that it can produce such incredibly rich and meaningful music with virtually zero infrastructure. But in many ways, that aspect of the music has actually been used as a tool, over the past 100 years or so, to limit and restrict the possibilities of the medium/milieu and to define it; often in unnatural ways.
Taking even a cursory glance at the history of this music, there seems to be an abundance of evidence in support of Miles Okazaki’s suggestion that jazz has always been highly conceptual, whether or not it was consistently articulated as such. And perhaps even more to the point, the very core of the most conservatively sanctioned canon of this music is full of examples of performer/composers who have taken great pains to expand the nature of the arts-based infrastructures made available to them; usually with very limited success.
There is the example of Scott Joplin’s inability to have his operatic works performed at a high level during his lifetime. Charlie Parker’s articulation of his desire to compose music for larger/orchestral forces and Edgar Varese’s refusal to accept Parker as one of his composition students. Jackie McLean’s discussion in the documentary “Jackie McLean On Mars” of his decision and the decision made by many of his peers (Max Roach, Yusef Lateef, Horace Tapscott, etc.) to move into academia, based, in part, on a desire to “perpetuate some concepts from another vantage point than always just on the bandstand.” Or Anthony Braxton’s remark regarding the re-release of his Composition 82 for 4 Orchestras: “Can you imagine anyone now giving a Black composer the money to perform and record a piece for 4 orchestras? Or one orchestra for that matter? 40 musicians?”
I realize that these comments bring up a collection of issues that may seem peripheral to the core of this very valuable and useful thread. But, for me, they point to jazz’s very rich and lengthy history of (attempted) engagement with massive arts-based infrastructure — in most cases involving the music’s most seminal practitioners.
Tom G
December 15th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
“tired put-down”? I’m not sure about that, but since I’m not a native English speaker it’s a little bit difficult for me to put my arguments in a precise, concise way. What I miss in a lot of the academic avant-garde (which is sometimes more a derriere-garde) is the “gut-level-factor”, call it emotional involvment or daredevil-ness – for me it’s too brainy, too abstract. Don’t get me wrong, I dig quite a lot of modern music, i.e. Messiaen, Kurtag, Rhim etc. – not to speak of all the “avant-jazzers” … But then I get back to people like Monk and Bird and Ornette and my brain starts dancing, I just can’t help it. There’s some magic there that’s missing in a lot of actual jazz and one of the key problem is the academisation of jazz, I think. But once again: it’s not only shadow, there’s also some sun: the new record by Steve Lehman i.e. is flabbergasting … What now? Am I conservative or just confused?
Steve L.
December 15th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Tom G: I can definitely relate to where you’re coming from. In terms of physicality and highly visceral music-making, I would recommend Michael Finnissy’s piano music — the recording of English Country Tunes, in particular, provides a really powerful example of Finnissy performing his own music.
In terms of music that deals with a pretty compelling rhythmic logic, I would suggest Grisey’s Vortex Temporum.
I agree that the music of people like Bud Powell and Charlie Parker is a seemingly endless revelation. Then again, Parker, seems to have felt the same way about Bartok, Stravinsky, and Varese, based on his recorded interviews. And I can only imagine what it must have taken to get his brain dancing…!
Mark C
December 16th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Hi Tom
No offence at all intended (and your English is as perfect as I can imagine anyone’s being). I just wanted to prompt something like what you did come back with. As it happens, you name names that I keep coming back to – so let’s both be conservative (and proud) with our ears cocked to whatever else might turn up. I get a kick from Grisey, for example, that’s quite different from what I get from Monk, say. But it is a kick, and I can never see why others don’t get it, too. Even if it’s seen as abstract, that doesn’t stop it being absolutely convincing, overwhelming. And then there’s all those who had issues with Monk, I suppose. I don’t get them, either…
Brian Roessler
December 17th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Great conversation.
First, we have the issue of jazz, its infrastructure, and its (lack of) interfacing with cultural power structures. Of course a connection to racism, institutional and personal, has been brought up. No way of getting around this. This relates to the question of just what IS the difference between jazz and other American art music (what we call Classical music I guess). I think one thing it comes down to is whether the music derives on some level from an African/African-American tradition. So, we have music of some sort of African descent getting essentially shut out of the economic artistic structure in the US (such as it is), while music that descends from some kind of European lineage successfully keeps its hands on the checkbook. Pretty familiar story.
Next come the aesthetic questions raised by the “headache music” vs. “dancing in your head” thing. I guess I tend to have not so much sympathy with music that gives me a headache. But music that gives me a headache doesn’t always seem to give others one. And music that makes my neurons jump around seems to bore some others to tears. So, hmmm. What to do with this one?
At any rate, the whole idea of an avant-garde kind of cracks me up. Just try to find something new. I guarantee you someone can find someone else who already thought of and did it. A LONG time ago.
Forbes Graham
December 17th, 2009 at 11:23 am
So far I’m really digging the music. Thanks for the post Steve.
Matana Roberts
December 17th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
I think It’s important to tread carefully here in this sort of conversation, as the expansion of what is being spoken of might lose sight of the discussion’s initial important focus. Steve’s essay and also George Lewis”s modernism boot camp initiative idea are extremely vital , especially now when dissemination about this art form has become so internet centric, and in some ways, in my observation, is creating it’s own culture of artistic “shut out” as far as race, gender and class are concerned. As a graduate of two american university arts programs as well as being a person that gives workshops or sits on panels at some of these institutions from time to time , it makes me excited to think that the 21st century student interested in improvisation coming from the tenets of the American Jazz tradition will no longer give me blank stares if I bring up the names of people like Tristan Murail, George Lewis, Tanya Leon for instance.
At the same time I think the discussion of “gut level” factors and historical jazz infrastructure as seen in America and it’s influence beyond v.s what the(?) avant-garde is within this scope, demand a larger excavation for real far reaching discussion. Not so much for the music sadly but for the way in which the boxed in idea of what constitutes jazz, or the aura of the jazz musician is informing the listeners opinion of what is or what isn’t avant, or what is or what isn’t jazz?
All art regardless of its creative endpoint, is a recycled/ D.I.Y. effort in it’s most graceful and imaginative form of what came before. It has been my experience thus far that ideas of African American experimentalists across artistic genres are lumped into a framework of “avantness” because the profiles no longer fit the societal idea of what can be historically understood or interpreted. And also because it’s these institutions that have offered the African American experimentalist some peace to actually explore and not be pushed into some of these tired corners of societal bore. As far as music is concerned, I’m also not so certain the the euro classical new music traditions of the last fifty years or so, are as accepting of this expansion, but at the same time at least there is room that in many ways that historically speaking, the American jazz tradition has ignored or undervalued.
I, of course, can’t really offer a complete unbiased opinion on all of this since in many ways I am very much in the middle of all of it in real time.
This is great discussion though, and I really hope it continues to carry on.
Steve L.
December 17th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Hope to contribute to the very meaningful comments made by Matana and Brian shortly.
In the meantime, I wanted to share a particularly timely link to Vijay Iyer’s recent JazzTimes article on Thelonious Monk and Spectral Harmony…!
http://tinyurl.com/ycbdldb
George Grella
December 17th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Avant-garde jazz/new music trolls, who knew?!
I would really urge eschewing clichéd reactions, not fighting straw-men, and concentrating on real issues and problems. Don’t let the man keep you down by distracting you with the usual nonsense:
First, jazz is in the American academies as surely as classical music, it’s hand is just as much in the kitty as this imagined quantity of ‘music that descends from some kind of European lineage.’ Some one name one major music school in America that does NOT teach, produce and institutionally support jazz.
Second, jazz is a mongrel, like the rest of truly American culture. It was created primarily, but not solely, by African-Americans who were specifically responding to and incorporating “European lineage.” Spanish songs, French dance music and John Phillip Sousa were essential to the creation of jazz. Don’t take my word for it, take Jelly Roll Morton’s, or listen to Henry Threadgill’s records. Leave the identity politics to the Republicans and, yes, the academics.
Third, if you’ve never read Virgil Thomson’s essay ‘How Composers Eat, or Who Does What to Whom and Who Gets Paid,” I’d recommend it. This discussion is a real luxury that many composers and musicians don’t have. They need to both make their art and to survive. For many, that means the academy – not everyone enjoys the accident of birth of Eliot Carter, nor is the balance that Ives and Wallace Stevens maintained possible for most. The music that artists in an out of the academy make succeeds or fails on its own terms, and each place is susceptible to the same danger: conformity. “Schools of thought” and “styles” are great for exploring new ideas, but they can also become a trap of solipsism. A method is not a substitute for a genre, using only Spectral means will inevitably lead to a dead-end. Even Reich and Glass modified their styles and John Adams made the leap to incorporate Process as a means to achieve Resolution. What is so interesting in Steve’s post is the connection with his thoughts and his music. Take his three discs on Pi – they are all different, all show the development of ideas and incorporation of new concepts, but are all clearly his own individual work. And he’s an academic! The streets are not immune to this, one of the problems that is already developing with the growing incorporation of pop music and new classical music is that already a lot of stuff is sounding the same. And there’s no academy forcing that to happen. Where ever there are groups gathering around a certain idea, there is a trend towards homogenization, it’s hard to resist but should be resisted.
And last, there’s plenty of new ideas out there that no one else thought of a long time ago. Steve hints at one in particular, the looped based structures of Furrer and especially Bernhard Lang, who is doing extremely fresh, exciting stuff, and there’s also a vast unexplored are of the dimension of time in music. It’s too new to have a clear direction, but you can hear it in Steve’s work and also on the new Alarm Will Sound CD. The door to that has not yet been opened, but it’s been cracked.
Joe Morris
December 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Very nice music. Just by listening I wouldn’t know how much of it was composed or improvised because of the beautiful free form, organic nature of much of it. Often the same could be said in reverse depending on who was the improviser.
The immediacy of improvisation, versus the time needed to conceptualize and actualize the methodology of communicating the composed ideas to the performers and the time and effort needed by the performers to understand and master the score might be the only dividing line issues between these examples and the most contemporary improvised music. The properties at play are certainly inter-related at this point.
The formal design of extended technique rendered in a composition is the same in musical value as the improviser inventing it in performance except for the time it takes to get it performed and the options available in the real-time performance. It sure takes great artistry in composition to reach for the organic, just as it takes great artistry to make complex form in an improvisation
To me the use of ratios and outrageous tuplets in the new complexity work often results in phrasing that recalls the improvised collective rubato of Unit Structures (although much less organic in how it is used) and it’s descendants, or the phraseology of an Anthony Braxton solo. He uses lot’s of ratios in his compositions of course too.
Unfortunately, old issues fade slowly so the conversation is less about music than it could be. Fortunately music keeps moving anyway.
Steve L.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Definitely a lot to discuss and expand on. And doing my best to heed Matana’s advice, I’ll try and touch on some of the points that everyone brings up in an effort to connect them to my original/primary aim of sharing information about some current trends in European Modernism.
Brian and George both touched on the role of institutional support in creative music and I’d like to add to that perspective as it pertains to my original post. To begin with, when looking at what music is derived from African-American traditions and what music is the result of a so-called mongrelization, it seems that perception and successful self-fashioning may be more important than reality. Scott Joplin and Anthony Braxton’s affinity for operatic forms do not seem to have provided them with open access to the traditional infrastructure of Western European art music. And the very powerful influence of pan-African musical forms on the music of John Cage, Steve Reich, Philip Glass, and Laurie Anderson, among others, does not seem to have placed them in any kind of economic ghetto, as far as institutional support is concerned. A very deep hybridity may well be fundamental to all histories of creative music, once culturally-nationalist and politically skewed attempts to construct a narrative of aesthetic purity have been made transparent.
And as Matana suggests in her post, DIY strategies and methodologies may also be a fundamental axiom of creativity — whether it’s something that is openly discussed or not. Of the 5 composers I chose to highlight in my original post, at least 4 of them succeeded in gaining international recognition for their work through their own efforts as performers and/or ensemble directors — Furrer formed Klangforum Wien; Finnissy presented the original performances of his piano music; Grisey and Murail formed l’Itineraire Ensemble in the 1970s and performed their own electro-acoustic works. And of course the DIY ensembles led by Steve Reich and Philip Glass are widely known (and as suggested earlier, indebted, I believe, to earlier models presented by Gottschalk, Joplin, and Parker, among others).
A great deal of reevaluation seems to be necessary in order to move beyond, what Matana succinctly referred to as, a “boxed in” conception of jazz (or any creative music for that matter). Part of the project of a Modernism Boot Camp and of sharing information like this in the context of a BLOG post is to help expand the notion of what jazz can be and what the creative music community can imagine for itself. And for the time being this remains a re-imagination that is happening in spite of an overwhelming dearth of significant institutional resources and support — George’s comment about “the kitty” not withstanding.
Brian Roessler
December 17th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
@George: No trolling here. This music is life and death to me. And if my thoughts are cliched, so be it. At any rate…
Sure, you find jazz programs in the academy. Lots of them. But from my perspective it doesn’t look like the same thing. The classical music academy is training performers, for instance, for a specific job – orchestral work usually (which is probably a bad idea to begin with given the slim pickins for orchestra jobs). The jazz conservatory programs have a pretty different end product in mind. And I’m not at all arguing that it should be the same thing. The academic world is not, and I think probably never has been, an effective incubator for new music. I would say that most of the music that both affects people profoundly and has staying power is created outside that environment. Even the composers who do work as academics I suspect often feel that their composition work is pretty well separated from their academic work.
But it remains the truth that the vast majority of power in the institutional music world is held by the descendants of the “classical” music tradition. Witness the paucity of opportunities for “jazz” musicians to even PERFORM their music in this country, not to mention getting paid a reasonable sum to do so. I look around at my colleagues who are composers and performers of jazz and I don’t see them having much access to the cultural infrastructure.
On the other hand, there is very little opportunity I suppose for new music of ANY sort to be performed, regardless of it being labeled as jazz or classical. So, maybe this whole trajectory of argument is moot.
I maintain that, if we want to continue using words like “jazz” and “classical” (which I would rather not, but there are practical considerations here) it is important to acknowledge that what we call jazz in this country has significant roots in African musical traditions. Of course it is a mongrel that incorporates everything you mentioned and more. This is not about identity politics – this is about the reality of where things come from. If there is a distinction to be made between jazz and classical music (and again I’m not 100% sure there is one) it has to do with music that descends from African musical conceptions versus music that descends from European ones. To take two examples brought up already that I think are emblematic, look at Elliott Carter and Anthony Braxton. Both are extremely sophisticated composers of American music. And I would rather not make a distinction between the two of them at all except to say that they are both great, important and very different contributors to 20th/21st century American musical culture. BUT in the way they are dealt with by the musical powers-that-be there is a definite distinction. And I guess that distinction is one of jazz and classical music. They have both wandered pretty far from their musical sources in many ways, but they are also coming from distinctly different places.
Finally, I’m not familiar enough with the examples you cite but I would be pretty willing to bet that they are not sui generis. Of course people always have original and interesting takes on how to do things. That’s what makes this whole endeavor worthwhile. But I find the notion of avant-garde problematic. There is the famous conversation between Mingus and Ellington (which I have to paraphrase) where Mingus suggests making something like a free jazz record and Ellington responds “Oh man, do we have go that far back?” To me what is interesting and potentially (shudder) avant-garde is to hear someone’s genuine personal vision. I’m not interested in qualifying it because of how it compares to what has happened before or what might happen in the future.
jamie
December 17th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Hi,
If you’ll forgive my naivete–I know very little about music theory–I’m wondering if Angelo Badalamenti figures in at all in the pantheon of “spectral” composers. I couldn’t help but think of his work on Twin Peaks as I listened to Grisey. It’s obvious Badalamenti’s work is far less adventurous on a theoretical level, but he did seem to incorporate similar moods into his realization of Lynchian Americana.
(And since this is a jazz blog, I’ll just mention that Grady Tate’s brush work on those Twin Peaks soundtracks is sublime.)
Steve L.
December 18th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Hi Jamie,
I’m also a fan of Badalamenti’s work for Twin Peaks. As far as I know, he has never expressed and affiliation with spectral music. And I don’t personally hear to much overlap in his writing, which tends to be fairly traditional, from a harmonic point of view.
Steve L.
December 18th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Sorry for the typos. Meant:
“…any affiliation…” and “…hear too much…”
Will Layman
December 20th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
I just want to thank Steve for this incredible guide toward some music I would never have heard otherwise. I love the new disc by Steve, and hearing this work just illuminates it more completely.
Also thanks to Destination-Out for being a great forum for all this.
No divisions, all music!
– Will Layman
George Grella
December 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pm
The core of my view is that Steve’s post represents his musical thinking, open-minded, exploratory and completely non-judgmental in terms of where ideas come from, whether IRCAM or IDM. The latter is the academy (where a hell of a lot of important and influential experimentation has taken place) and the latter is the street and a pretty good example of DIY.
Jazz and classical music in America have a cult following, and the new and experimental side of each a sub-cult. No one is going to get rich, or even make a living, doing this music. Musicians need to eat, so if they get jobs in the academy, like Braxton has, good for them. I think a full stomach is just as conducive to creativity as starvation.
Jazz and new music are not enemies, no matter what some people feel. Jazz, yes in the academy, has helped revive the tradition of improvisation in classical music, and it has learned a great deal from classical music about how to structure stuff beyond head-solo-head blues or Rhythm Changes. These are all good things.
Be opened minded, don’t resent other people’s success and most of all be a free fucking agent. Music is not the enemy of other music. Yeah, resources are tight. Cecil Taylor washed dishes and Philip Glass drove a cab, and now neither one has to. Joseph Jarman learned valuable survival skills in the Army, Conlon Nancarrow left for Mexico and Harry Partch rode boxcars. That any of them might have ever, eventually gotten some money or performance at a University, College or Conservatory is a good thing. Remember that facts, and what they indicate, matter, and the fact is that the academy rejected Eliot Carter for longer than it did Anthony Braxton (an unfair measure, I know, since Carter was born in 1908) – the point is that rigid, stultifying group think is the fundamental enemy of creative music of ALL kinds, and there’s too much of a whiff of it here for my comfort.
Chris M
December 21st, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Great post. Thanks for this, both to Mr. Lehman and the D:O guys.
Brian Roessler
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:27 am
Happy Festivus! Welcome, new comers. The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of grievances. I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you’re gonna hear about it!
Ingel Moon
December 29th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Find out some work of these Nordic composers: Magnus Lindberg, Kaija Saariaho, Erkki-Sven Tuur, Anders Hillborg. So much jazz – like energy are present in their orchestral works.